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[sharon_collon]: hello everyone is sharing here today on
the podcast i've got the wonderful amy kennedy
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[sharon_collon]: and she owns the organizing be which
is a professional home organizing and cluttering service
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[sharon_collon]: and she helps others add value helps
add value to the lives of others through
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[sharon_collon]: her business organizing b amy supports busy
women and families experiencing chronic disorganized and you
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[sharon_collon]: guys know i love this topic many
of whom have autism d h d depression
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[sharon_collon]: anxiety and other brain based conditions to
ease the pressure of every day life by
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[sharon_collon]: providing one on one hands on ganizational
support within the family home she provides a
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[sharon_collon]: holistic and clients centric approach to ensure
that all clients homes are organized in a
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[sharon_collon]: way that supports their needs capacity and
lifestyle so excited to have you here thank
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[sharon_collon]: you so much amy
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[amy_kennedy]: thank you for inviting me i'm really
excited to speak to you today sharon
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[sharon_collon]: i'm so excited as well and i
think that this topic is going to be
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[sharon_collon]: something that is popular with our beautiful
family so tell me a little bit about
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[sharon_collon]: what you do and why you do
it
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah so
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[sharon_collon]: so
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[amy_kennedy]: i guess you've covered a lot in
the beautiful intro there so thank you
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[sharon_collon]: hank you
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[amy_kennedy]: i think
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[sharon_collon]: i think
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[amy_kennedy]: primarily
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[sharon_collon]: marly
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[amy_kennedy]: what i
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[sharon_collon]: what
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[amy_kennedy]: do
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[sharon_collon]: i do
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[amy_kennedy]: is that
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[sharon_collon]: is that
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[amy_kennedy]: i support people to make their lives
easier and that's within
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[sharon_collon]: that
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[amy_kennedy]: their home
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[sharon_collon]: i
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[amy_kennedy]: so
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[sharon_collon]: i
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[amy_kennedy]: majority
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[sharon_collon]: majority
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[amy_kennedy]: of my
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[sharon_collon]: of
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[sharon_collon]: my clients
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[amy_kennedy]: are busy
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[sharon_collon]: busy
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[amy_kennedy]: women
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[sharon_collon]: women
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[amy_kennedy]: but i found
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[amy_kennedy]: over the last
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[sharon_collon]: a
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[amy_kennedy]: uh i guess twelve
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[sharon_collon]: twelve
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[amy_kennedy]: eighteen months
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[sharon_collon]: months
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[amy_kennedy]: there's been a
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[sharon_collon]: been
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[amy_kennedy]: bigger
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[sharon_collon]: big
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[amy_kennedy]: shift towards people that are nero divergent
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[sharon_collon]: near
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[amy_kennedy]: so whether
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[sharon_collon]: whether
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[amy_kennedy]: or not
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[sharon_collon]: or not
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[amy_kennedy]: they have a h d or autism
or a combination of both
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[sharon_collon]: right
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[amy_kennedy]: so
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[sharon_collon]: he
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[amy_kennedy]: it's really
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[amy_kennedy]: setting
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[sharon_collon]: sitting
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[amy_kennedy]: so it really works
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[sharon_collon]: really
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[amy_kennedy]: for them and i do
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[amy_kennedy]: i guess why do i do
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[sharon_collon]: why
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[amy_kennedy]: it
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[amy_kennedy]: because
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[amy_kennedy]: i get a lot of
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[sharon_collon]: get
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[sharon_collon]: a lot of pleasure
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[amy_kennedy]: and joy
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[sharon_collon]: and joy
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[amy_kennedy]: out of helping other people succeed
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[sharon_collon]: ed
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[sharon_collon]: and
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[amy_kennedy]: confidence in their own life to know
that they can
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[sharon_collon]: a
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[amy_kennedy]: they can do it they
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[sharon_collon]: do
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[amy_kennedy]: can
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[sharon_collon]: it
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[amy_kennedy]: have their house organized and hear the
flow and effects of having your house organized
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[amy_kennedy]: that impacts you know relationships
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[sharon_collon]: i
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[amy_kennedy]: their employment um so it's like the
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[sharon_collon]: he
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[amy_kennedy]: and so yeah that's kind
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[sharon_collon]: that
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[amy_kennedy]: of why i do it and how
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[sharon_collon]: oh
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[amy_kennedy]: in
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[sharon_collon]: that's so amazing now one of the
thin so i often talk with alk to
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[sharon_collon]: my clients about especially those clients that
have neuro diversity themselves that they know that
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[sharon_collon]: they want a more organized home they
know that that they do better when things
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[sharon_collon]: are clearer and more minimless and organized
and have structure but maybe for them it's
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[sharon_collon]: just very overwhelming about finding a place
to start or maybe the house has gone
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[sharon_collon]: past a point where it's it's now
a place of overwhelm instead of being a
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[sharon_collon]: place of retreat and a place that
are you know meets their sensory needs and
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[sharon_collon]: maybe it just becomes so overwhelming to
start so can you explain a little bit
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[sharon_collon]: about what when you come to a
family perhaps has neuro diversity like a d
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[sharon_collon]: d or autoism in their what sort
of things are they struggling with
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[amy_kennedy]: my
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[sharon_collon]: when you go in there
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah we've described that really
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[sharon_collon]: a
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[amy_kennedy]: well
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[sharon_collon]: real
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[amy_kennedy]: so usually as soon as i meet
a client there at breaking point so you
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[amy_kennedy]: know they've tried absolutely everything that they
can they've read as many books as they
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[amy_kennedy]: can they've tried so many different strategies
and nothing seems to be working for them
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[amy_kennedy]: so usually what we do is we
just have a really good honest conversation about
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[sharon_collon]: yeah
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[amy_kennedy]: how they're using their home what their
challenges are you know what is what are
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[amy_kennedy]: their
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[sharon_collon]: what
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[amy_kennedy]: processing mejilities their learning styles their preferences
do they like things
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[sharon_collon]: i
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[amy_kennedy]: left out on tables do they do
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[amy_kennedy]: able to remember to do a task
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[amy_kennedy]: having a stack of papers a collection
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[sharon_collon]: okay
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[amy_kennedy]: bowl on the counter too overwhelming
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[sharon_collon]: oh
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[amy_kennedy]: for them and then they need it
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[sharon_collon]: oh
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[amy_kennedy]: closed doors so we're talking a lot
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[amy_kennedy]: those individual preferences to set up the
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[sharon_collon]: no
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[amy_kennedy]: home that makes sense for that individual
or that family so what makes
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[sharon_collon]: what
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[amy_kennedy]: sense to me as an organizer might
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[sharon_collon]: i
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[amy_kennedy]: make sense to the individual and what
makes sense to the individual might not make
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[amy_kennedy]: sense to me necessarily but we work
throg that process to make sure that it's
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[amy_kennedy]: really logical steps in terms of the
way that the area is organized but also
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[amy_kennedy]: a clear system that they can maintain
it that makes
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[sharon_collon]: make
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[amy_kennedy]: sense to them so it doesn't matter
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[sharon_collon]: a
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[amy_kennedy]: it looks like it doesn't matter what
containers are used or it's just really about
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[amy_kennedy]: making sure that it makes sense to
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[sharon_collon]: i
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[amy_kennedy]: uh i guest do so
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[sharon_collon]: yep
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[amy_kennedy]: we don't
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[amy_kennedy]: continue yeah we don't want to make
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[amy_kennedy]: individual or for the family so it's
very very tailored and so there's no
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[sharon_collon]: i know
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[amy_kennedy]: right or wrong way or there's no
specific set formula that works for everybody that's
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[amy_kennedy]: very very tailored
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[sharon_collon]: i love this
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[amy_kennedy]: organize each person's home so which
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[sharon_collon]: it so much yea
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah i love it too because i'm
in this beautiful space where get to learn
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[amy_kennedy]: a lot about their family but also
you know we're creating wonderful relationship make sure
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[amy_kennedy]: that you know there's time to practice
and work shop and make sure it actually
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[amy_kennedy]: works for them it's not a come
in once set it up and good bye
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[amy_kennedy]: here you go we're like over gradually
over time building on system so that they
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[amy_kennedy]: can practice it and make sure that
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[sharon_collon]: what
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[amy_kennedy]: work or they thought that that would
work but actually in reality when you know
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[amy_kennedy]: they get the kid home from school
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[amy_kennedy]: well let's change the system to work
with the way that the individual brain works
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[sharon_collon]: i think it's it's a really beautiful
thing that you're offering because don't know how
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[sharon_collon]: much you know about my background but
some of the things i learned about a
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[sharon_collon]: d i learned from doing experiments on
my own family so what i would do
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[amy_kennedy]: oh
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[sharon_collon]: i would get them to come into
the room and i'd have stuff everywhere and
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[sharon_collon]: i mess it all up and i'd
have it really chaotic looking and i would
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[sharon_collon]: monitor their behavior and see what happens
and it was particularly evident in my husband
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[sharon_collon]: he's probably the most extreme case of
eight h d that we have in our
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[sharon_collon]: family and he wanted to get out
of the room he had really jerky body
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[sharon_collon]: language he was obviously stressed and he
just wanted to get out like when it
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[sharon_collon]: was chaotic but
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[sharon_collon]: when it was calm and things had
a system wasn't necessarily perfect looking but it
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[sharon_collon]: had had things had systems and things
were generally put away he was quite happy
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[sharon_collon]: to be settled in the room so
i know not everyone's brain works exactly the
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[sharon_collon]: same as my families but it was
just interesting to notice that the environment had
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[sharon_collon]: such a role to play in how
they felt about that space
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah that's so fascinating i really love
that you you did that and that's one
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[amy_kennedy]: thing that i always say when i
meet someone
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[sharon_collon]: make
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[amy_kennedy]: for the first time is like don't
tidy up for me please don't tidy up
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[amy_kennedy]: because we're your shoe are or where
your keys are or where your handbag is
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[sharon_collon]: a
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[amy_kennedy]: that's where we need to build the
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[amy_kennedy]: you know
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[amy_kennedy]: if you take your shoes off near
the front door well that's where your shoes
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[amy_kennedy]: need to be stored if you take
your shoes off near the you know under
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[amy_kennedy]: the shoe rack or shoe storage needs
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[sharon_collon]: no
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[amy_kennedy]: you know logical as you know is
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[amy_kennedy]: be in the entry but any of
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[sharon_collon]: this
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[amy_kennedy]: looking at you know the natural behavior
it's so much easier to maintain
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[sharon_collon]: it has to work for that individual
and i really like it that you're tailoring
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[sharon_collon]: it so much because that's really encouraging
the person to have buying on it and
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[sharon_collon]: to to keep up the system because
anyone can make a certain area look inst
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[sharon_collon]: i like worthy you know like it
can look beautiful but if it doesn't work
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah
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[sharon_collon]: then they're going to go straight back
to it being overwhelming
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[sharon_collon]: and i love that you're able to
give these families a little bit of um
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[sharon_collon]: you know those systems that they might
be craving that sometimes it takes an outsider
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[sharon_collon]: to come in and have a look
at things from a you know sometimes they're
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you know when we're working with predictable problems
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[sharon_collon]: i know even in my own family
when you're so close and you're living at
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that there's an easy solution just right in
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[amy_kennedy]: it
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[sharon_collon]: something as simple as you always take
your shoes off there why don't we have
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[sharon_collon]: the system there instead of the front
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there of a client who had a lot
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[amy_kennedy]: of had cats and had two kitty
litter traits she had a really good system
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[amy_kennedy]: that she have one that's in back
up and one that's going but the one
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[amy_kennedy]: that was in back up she had
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[amy_kennedy]: to put it so she just leave
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[amy_kennedy]: to the one that the cat was
using and it's like it's taking up she's
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[amy_kennedy]: like it's taking up so much room
it's so annoying i trip over and all
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[amy_kennedy]: the time i'm like oh let's just
put it under the other one she was
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[amy_kennedy]: like oh my god i've been doing
five years and i've never even thought of
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[amy_kennedy]: putting it underneath how stupid am i
like you're not stupid it's just this
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[sharon_collon]: it's just that's so good it's just
too close
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[amy_kennedy]: it's too close to the situation
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[sharon_collon]: m
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[amy_kennedy]: that you couldn't see
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[sharon_collon]: oh that's that's so incredible so tell
me if you had so pretend that i
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of a h d people and maybe i
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[sharon_collon]: have a d d self and i
call you up and i say like things
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[sharon_collon]: are just out of control in my
house this stuff everywhere i am really overwhelmed
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[sharon_collon]: by my environment at the moment how
would you set about helping that person like
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[sharon_collon]: how would you start that process with
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[amy_kennedy]: well after
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[amy_kennedy]: we've had that guest conversation about what
the challenges are we just start on the
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thing that's
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[amy_kennedy]: the biggest change so whether or not
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or to get their children to school on
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[amy_kennedy]: time so then we said a very
clear little goal about okay we're just going
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[amy_kennedy]: to look at the way that you
know the things that
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[sharon_collon]: things
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[amy_kennedy]: you need to take out of the
house are stored and organized so the shoes
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[amy_kennedy]: the keys the hand bags the school
bags the know the lunch boxes all of
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[amy_kennedy]: those things and then we look
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[amy_kennedy]: the process there of the best way
to organize them and usually we work in
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[amy_kennedy]: really clear short bursts of time so
it's a lot of my clients have a
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[sharon_collon]: hm
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[amy_kennedy]: for a long period of time and
they've got got brilliant big exciting creative ideas
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[amy_kennedy]: and as soon as that idea gets
into their head it's easy for them to
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[amy_kennedy]: doing whatever it is they're thinking so
you know we do do body doubling so
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[amy_kennedy]: i walk at work alongside them so
we're doing the task together we're talking about
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[amy_kennedy]: this pace together and we're organizing the
space together and
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[sharon_collon]: all right
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[amy_kennedy]: when they start getting a little bit
distracted they use that as a time that
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[amy_kennedy]: okay um time for a break
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[sharon_collon]: it
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[amy_kennedy]: or time to come back in and
re focus i use now times are like
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[amy_kennedy]: the time timer so we set that
for fifteen or twenty minutes
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[sharon_collon]: i love it that you're working in
blocks that's great
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[amy_kennedy]: they can focus but some of my
clients don't need that i mean it's all
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[amy_kennedy]: just depends on the particular client and
what well they have identified
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[amy_kennedy]: what they need and what i can
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[amy_kennedy]: we just
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[amy_kennedy]: go through that in a short block
of time and then we also really clear
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[amy_kennedy]: on what we're working on and so
if we're you know working on selling up
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[amy_kennedy]: a system to get outside the house
and we come across reviewing the area we
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[amy_kennedy]: come across a lot of papers or
school notes or bills or things we just
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[amy_kennedy]: make an effort to put that aside
we're not reading that were looking
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[amy_kennedy]: at that now we're really focused and
when that time
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[amy_kennedy]: goes off then we can go have
a look and read those papers or you
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[amy_kennedy]: know if we find something that should
live in another area of the home say
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not
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[amy_kennedy]: putting that away straight away we're collecting
those and doing those another time because as
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just get distracted we lose
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[amy_kennedy]: focus and then we just can't achieve
that particular task of time it's all short
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goals of what we want to achieve focusing
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[sharon_collon]: m
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[amy_kennedy]: on that
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[sharon_collon]: i love it and so many things
you identified in there are such key
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[amy_kennedy]: oh
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[sharon_collon]: key strategies for helping the brain in
the circumstances like even the fact that body
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[sharon_collon]: doubling that can create having someone there
to do a specific task can really um
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[sharon_collon]: you know create that point of interest
for them to be able to get the
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[sharon_collon]: task done and having you there to
support them is a fantastic service so tell
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[sharon_collon]: me if i people at home listening
what are some things if they're looking around
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[amy_kennedy]: oh
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[sharon_collon]: oh my goodness like
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[amy_kennedy]: m
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[sharon_collon]: i could
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[amy_kennedy]: oh
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[sharon_collon]: you know i could really do with
having a professional organizer come in and help
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[sharon_collon]: us is there any steps that you
could recommend that they could start with today
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[sharon_collon]: that that you would think would help
them on their journey like i know obviously
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[sharon_collon]: contacting yourself for a professional organizer would
be something that would be really beneficial but
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[sharon_collon]: say what's what's a few things that
they could take away today and think this
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[sharon_collon]: help me on the on the road
to my environment becoming less overwhelming
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah
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[sharon_collon]: for me
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[amy_kennedy]: well i think
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[amy_kennedy]: probably the two really key things to
think about in your home is simplicity and
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[amy_kennedy]: the functionality so simplicity i think in
regard to the simplicity of the organizing tom
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[amy_kennedy]: but simplicity in regard to the amount
of things that you own as well so
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[amy_kennedy]: you know i guess to put really
simply the more you
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[sharon_collon]: a
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[amy_kennedy]: own the more your home demands of
you so that's more dust the more you
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[amy_kennedy]: have the more decisions that you need
to make each day and the longer it
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[amy_kennedy]: takes to do every day task so
if you're adding a brain based condition like
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comply that decision making process even further so
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[amy_kennedy]: you know if we're reducing the number
of things that you own to what you
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[amy_kennedy]: reducing the amount and the complexity of
the decisions that you know an individual needs
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[amy_kennedy]: to make each day so that gives
a little bit more breathing space you know
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[amy_kennedy]: to do a day task so that's
probably one thing that anybody could look at
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[amy_kennedy]: quite easily and the other
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[sharon_collon]: the
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[amy_kennedy]: is regard to the simplicity of your
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[amy_kennedy]: i use in my business philosophy of
a one handed system so a one handed
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[sharon_collon]: one
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[amy_kennedy]: system is a system where you only
need one hand to put things away or
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[amy_kennedy]: to get it out so you know
we're avoiding
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[sharon_collon]: avoid
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[amy_kennedy]: things where we're stacking containers on top
of each other always sacking things feeling a
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[sharon_collon]: no
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[amy_kennedy]: or anything so deep that you have
to move all the things in front of
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[amy_kennedy]: it to get to the thing at
the back so we're looking at one single
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[amy_kennedy]: of things where so you can see
everything that you have and you can get
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[amy_kennedy]: things really really easily and
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[sharon_collon]: i love that so much
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[amy_kennedy]: i do to inevitably even myself you
know i'm tired when you're tired exhausted overwhelmed
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[amy_kennedy]: if you've got a stack of containers
and something go and supposed to go in
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[amy_kennedy]: the bottom one inevitably you're just
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[sharon_collon]: not going
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[amy_kennedy]: going
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[sharon_collon]: it
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[amy_kennedy]: just put it on the top of
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[amy_kennedy]: later the problem is later really comes
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[sharon_collon]: m
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[amy_kennedy]: but if thou
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[amy_kennedy]: it's still exactly the same containers are
on a shelf and so you can access
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[amy_kennedy]: the one on the bottom without having
to move any of the others it's no
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[amy_kennedy]: no well it's no more difficult it's
just as easy to put it away as
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[amy_kennedy]: it is to just leave it out
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[amy_kennedy]: m
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[sharon_collon]: that makes total sense
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[sharon_collon]: total sense
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[amy_kennedy]: and i believe that you know
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[amy_kennedy]: if it's going if it takes you
hours and hours and hours to set up
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[amy_kennedy]: the system to begin with it's going
to take you hours and hours and hours
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[amy_kennedy]: to maintain so really look at how
long it takes to set up and if
433
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[amy_kennedy]: you can mirror that
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[sharon_collon]: yeah
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[amy_kennedy]: later on in the maintenance stage
436
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[sharon_collon]: m
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[amy_kennedy]: so you know
438
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[sharon_collon]: m
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[amy_kennedy]: if you want perfectly folded sheets or
clothing you've just got to commit to be
440
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[amy_kennedy]: able to do that on a every
day basis and if you can't that's perfectly
441
00:18:37,377 --> 00:18:43,187
[amy_kennedy]: fine there are other ways to organize
it which takes a lot less time and
442
00:18:43,267 --> 00:18:49,478
[amy_kennedy]: are more manageable and the same with
sorting pencils by color or or legos by
443
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[amy_kennedy]: shape and color that takes a
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[sharon_collon]: i
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[amy_kennedy]: lot of time to maintain and so
sometimes it's just as efficient and organized to
446
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[amy_kennedy]: put all
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[sharon_collon]: oh
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00:19:01,450 --> 00:19:07,100
[amy_kennedy]: everything all into all the leg into
one box together you know it's just as
449
00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:11,487
[amy_kennedy]: organized you can still find the things
it's just organized in a different way and
450
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[amy_kennedy]: it really
451
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[sharon_collon]: i really
452
00:19:12,008 --> 00:19:17,659
[amy_kennedy]: depends on that the the brain of
the individual of how that they think and
453
00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:21,527
[amy_kennedy]: work and need and how they're going
to use it later so
454
00:19:21,983 --> 00:19:28,374
[sharon_collon]: i have seen some of my coaching
clients go they talk about maybe you know
455
00:19:28,454 --> 00:19:33,462
[sharon_collon]: wanting to implement a new strategy and
they go because their brains are just so
456
00:19:33,623 --> 00:19:39,152
[sharon_collon]: incredible when they hyperfocus they go into
this really deep focus of what they're going
457
00:19:39,192 --> 00:19:43,359
[sharon_collon]: to do for this system but perhaps
that system becomes like three pages of complicated
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[sharon_collon]: steps and
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah
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[sharon_collon]: in theory it makes total sense like
i'm like that is amazing that you re
461
00:19:48,548 --> 00:19:52,534
[sharon_collon]: able to think of that but in
a practical sense when you're moving quickly and
462
00:19:52,554 --> 00:19:56,240
[sharon_collon]: you've got competing demands that doesn't it
doesn't necessarily work so i love it how
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[sharon_collon]: you've talked about simplifying systems because you
need to be able to like i've never
464
00:20:00,207 --> 00:20:03,953
[sharon_collon]: heard it before being referred to as
a one handed system but that makes total
465
00:20:04,013 --> 00:20:06,898
[sharon_collon]: sense to me because if you can't
do it with one hand because we've got
466
00:20:06,938 --> 00:20:11,629
[sharon_collon]: all these competing demands happening then it's
you know the system isn't going to work
467
00:20:11,749 --> 00:20:15,380
[sharon_collon]: in actual real life sense when you've
got other stress coming at you
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah
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[sharon_collon]: so that was
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[amy_kennedy]: m
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[sharon_collon]: a really good point
472
00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:19,262
[amy_kennedy]: thank you and that micro
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[sharon_collon]: my
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[amy_kennedy]: level of organization that you mentioned that's
often when i get
475
00:20:24,355 --> 00:20:24,376
[sharon_collon]: i
476
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:30,662
[amy_kennedy]: called into a individuals home so i
can see that they've tried really hard they've
477
00:20:30,702 --> 00:20:36,724
[amy_kennedy]: got really really really good structure in
place it's just missing that step of how
478
00:20:36,844 --> 00:20:41,411
[amy_kennedy]: to maintain it and it's just that
little bit too complex like it's very well
479
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[amy_kennedy]: organized and it looks
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[sharon_collon]: m
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[amy_kennedy]: brilliant but yeah on there um m
the practicality level it's just too too much
482
00:20:50,745 --> 00:20:50,890
[sharon_collon]: yet
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[amy_kennedy]: man
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[sharon_collon]: m
485
00:20:52,228 --> 00:20:59,981
[amy_kennedy]: so yeah it's really interesting to find
that medium level of the area where it
486
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[amy_kennedy]: is achievable and maintainable
487
00:21:03,473 --> 00:21:07,279
[sharon_collon]: and it's that all or nothing approach
like i know that the wonderful h d
488
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,728
[sharon_collon]: brain has this tendency to go like
i am being super organized or i'm not
489
00:21:12,808 --> 00:21:17,897
[sharon_collon]: doing it at all so so you
know having that really simple system that makes
490
00:21:17,957 --> 00:21:22,805
[sharon_collon]: it actually easier for you to keep
going with the system rather than having to
491
00:21:22,845 --> 00:21:26,692
[sharon_collon]: put in all this effort or no
effort and abandon the ship completely you know
492
00:21:27,301 --> 00:21:27,483
[amy_kennedy]: yeah
493
00:21:27,693 --> 00:21:32,138
[sharon_collon]: i think it really is a strategy
that can help them if it's
494
00:21:32,130 --> 00:21:32,820
[amy_kennedy]: yeah
495
00:21:32,198 --> 00:21:34,621
[sharon_collon]: so simple that it's almost more work
not to do it
496
00:21:35,140 --> 00:21:36,121
[amy_kennedy]: absolutely and
497
00:21:36,584 --> 00:21:36,665
[sharon_collon]: and
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00:21:36,602 --> 00:21:37,063
[amy_kennedy]: you know once
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[sharon_collon]: now
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[amy_kennedy]: you
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[sharon_collon]: at
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[amy_kennedy]: get practised and get skilled at maintaining
that system then you can add the complexity
503
00:21:42,933 --> 00:21:44,115
[amy_kennedy]: to it because you
504
00:21:44,223 --> 00:21:44,284
[sharon_collon]: you
505
00:21:44,275 --> 00:21:44,635
[amy_kennedy]: already
506
00:21:44,525 --> 00:21:44,867
[sharon_collon]: already
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00:21:44,716 --> 00:21:46,338
[amy_kennedy]: know that you can maintain it
508
00:21:46,955 --> 00:21:46,976
[sharon_collon]: m
509
00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:48,205
[amy_kennedy]: so then you can build
510
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[sharon_collon]: m
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00:21:48,286 --> 00:21:49,500
[amy_kennedy]: on it and that
512
00:21:49,711 --> 00:21:49,731
[sharon_collon]: a
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00:21:49,981 --> 00:21:54,730
[amy_kennedy]: that's also that all or nothing is
also a trait of perfectionism as
514
00:21:54,773 --> 00:21:54,793
[sharon_collon]: m
515
00:21:54,790 --> 00:21:55,011
[amy_kennedy]: well
516
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[sharon_collon]: m
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00:21:55,933 --> 00:21:58,257
[amy_kennedy]: so yeah really interesting
518
00:21:57,744 --> 00:22:03,794
[sharon_collon]: and once you go into clients homes
and you help them you know perhaps you've
519
00:22:04,050 --> 00:22:04,256
[amy_kennedy]: yes
520
00:22:04,776 --> 00:22:08,502
[sharon_collon]: helped them organize some areas you've got
some systems in place what is some of
521
00:22:08,522 --> 00:22:12,734
[sharon_collon]: the feed back that you get from
your clients how does it how does it
522
00:22:13,236 --> 00:22:14,941
[sharon_collon]: help their lives and change their lives
523
00:22:16,611 --> 00:22:21,339
[amy_kennedy]: you know i find this just the
probe this is probably why i continue to
524
00:22:21,439 --> 00:22:27,208
[amy_kennedy]: work in this space because the change
is remarkable like and you wouldn't in some
525
00:22:27,268 --> 00:22:27,549
[amy_kennedy]: cases
526
00:22:27,306 --> 00:22:27,471
[sharon_collon]: some
527
00:22:27,629 --> 00:22:32,847
[amy_kennedy]: you would believe it so i've gone
into people's homes where they are almost
528
00:22:32,847 --> 00:22:32,867
[sharon_collon]: i
529
00:22:35,061 --> 00:22:37,244
[amy_kennedy]: the they're severe breaking point you
530
00:22:37,253 --> 00:22:37,273
[sharon_collon]: m
531
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[amy_kennedy]: know they've been in and out of
mental health units the
532
00:22:41,453 --> 00:22:41,720
[sharon_collon]: oh
533
00:22:42,012 --> 00:22:47,341
[amy_kennedy]: they just can't function to the being
all of a sudden the started up at
534
00:22:47,561 --> 00:22:51,808
[amy_kennedy]: n they've started their own business they've
gone out
535
00:22:51,713 --> 00:22:51,774
[sharon_collon]: and
536
00:22:51,889 --> 00:22:56,076
[amy_kennedy]: and done all these big weird and
wonderful things that they
537
00:22:56,184 --> 00:22:56,325
[sharon_collon]: they
538
00:22:56,216 --> 00:23:03,206
[amy_kennedy]: never thought were in the realm of
my possibility for them but just because the
539
00:23:03,306 --> 00:23:10,057
[amy_kennedy]: house is supporting them in a way
that wasn't supporting them previously it's really it's
540
00:23:10,118 --> 00:23:16,097
[amy_kennedy]: really interesting where its it's yes it's
about physically about the home but it's actually
541
00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:26,696
[amy_kennedy]: the emotional state and yeah people's confident
and providing space in their brain releasing that
542
00:23:26,756 --> 00:23:29,721
[amy_kennedy]: mental load to do other things
543
00:23:30,446 --> 00:23:31,013
[sharon_collon]: hm
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00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:31,644
[amy_kennedy]: so that's
545
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[sharon_collon]: yeah
546
00:23:31,704 --> 00:23:33,467
[amy_kennedy]: where i find it most profound
547
00:23:34,994 --> 00:23:38,681
[sharon_collon]: i love that so much i think
you know just one of the one of
548
00:23:38,721 --> 00:23:41,667
[sharon_collon]: my clients said to me is the
idea of being able to have someone drop
549
00:23:41,767 --> 00:23:43,811
[sharon_collon]: in without shame attached
550
00:23:44,442 --> 00:23:44,644
[amy_kennedy]: yeah
551
00:23:45,233 --> 00:23:48,393
[sharon_collon]: yeah like being able to welcome someone
into your home if they just dropped in
552
00:23:48,453 --> 00:23:52,441
[sharon_collon]: without walking around going like i'm sorry
about this and i'm sorry about that just
553
00:23:52,902 --> 00:23:56,349
[sharon_collon]: to be able to have someone come
in and it's never going to be perfect
554
00:23:56,430 --> 00:24:01,480
[sharon_collon]: right but like i do not feel
that sense of shame as someone walks through
555
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,444
[sharon_collon]: your house because
556
00:24:02,403 --> 00:24:02,424
[amy_kennedy]: i
557
00:24:02,464 --> 00:24:03,970
[sharon_collon]: you've got things generally under control
558
00:24:04,581 --> 00:24:10,543
[amy_kennedy]: absolutely and even if you you know
only need an hour's notice to reset the
559
00:24:10,623 --> 00:24:14,969
[amy_kennedy]: system back to where it was it
makes such a huge difference
560
00:24:15,243 --> 00:24:15,264
[sharon_collon]: m
561
00:24:15,790 --> 00:24:15,970
[amy_kennedy]: and i
562
00:24:15,988 --> 00:24:16,048
[sharon_collon]: and
563
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:16,270
[amy_kennedy]: found
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00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:17,235
[sharon_collon]: i mean yeah
565
00:24:17,372 --> 00:24:23,062
[amy_kennedy]: employment as well people are finding that
the are able to take on more diffmore
566
00:24:23,102 --> 00:24:31,314
[amy_kennedy]: difficult responsibilities at work they're getting acknowledged
work in a different way they couldn't previously
567
00:24:32,323 --> 00:24:36,410
[sharon_collon]: that's so good that i just think
it's i think it's so exciting and you
568
00:24:36,450 --> 00:24:40,336
[sharon_collon]: know just for people to know that
there is a service that i guess a
569
00:24:40,396 --> 00:24:43,381
[sharon_collon]: lot of our audience wouldn't know that
there's people out there that can help them
570
00:24:43,702 --> 00:24:44,667
[sharon_collon]: set up systems
571
00:24:45,665 --> 00:24:45,849
[amy_kennedy]: yeah
572
00:24:45,703 --> 00:24:49,810
[sharon_collon]: and i mean we all shouldn't feel
shame about our house right and we should
573
00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:53,536
[sharon_collon]: you know we should just you know
especially those of us with nero diversity like
574
00:24:54,057 --> 00:24:57,382
[sharon_collon]: kind of is what it is but
i still think it's something that we experience
575
00:24:57,883 --> 00:25:02,551
[sharon_collon]: and if it can make if a
space can make us feel good and feel
576
00:25:02,671 --> 00:25:05,716
[sharon_collon]: comforted and less overwhelmed then that
577
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:05,867
[amy_kennedy]: oh
578
00:25:05,836 --> 00:25:09,845
[sharon_collon]: has to be a great thing for
us completely you know like it has to
579
00:25:09,906 --> 00:25:10,996
[sharon_collon]: be a positive
580
00:25:12,501 --> 00:25:16,628
[amy_kennedy]: absolutely and it doesn't need to be
perfect it just needs to
581
00:25:16,645 --> 00:25:16,665
[sharon_collon]: m
582
00:25:16,668 --> 00:25:22,698
[amy_kennedy]: work for you and so whatever that
is is the perfect solution
583
00:25:23,483 --> 00:25:26,749
[sharon_collon]: that's i think we have this tendency
to want it to all look like a
584
00:25:26,849 --> 00:25:30,495
[sharon_collon]: show room and it's either a show
room or a tip there's no you know
585
00:25:30,535 --> 00:25:34,441
[sharon_collon]: like but it doesn't have to be
perfect it just has to it just has
586
00:25:34,481 --> 00:25:38,107
[sharon_collon]: to work for your and like it's
never going to like actually it's almost never
587
00:25:38,148 --> 00:25:42,194
[sharon_collon]: going to be perfect because we all
have kids and stuff going on and we
588
00:25:42,335 --> 00:25:44,057
[sharon_collon]: live the actual functional homes
589
00:25:44,591 --> 00:25:44,755
[amy_kennedy]: yeah
590
00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:50,560
[sharon_collon]: but this systems that work for your
family that's that's the crucial part isn't it
591
00:25:51,241 --> 00:25:52,605
[amy_kennedy]: absolutely and i think this
592
00:25:52,601 --> 00:25:52,622
[sharon_collon]: i
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00:25:53,187 --> 00:26:00,568
[amy_kennedy]: the perfection of the perfect looking home
unless you're willing and able to spend all
594
00:26:00,668 --> 00:26:03,435
[amy_kennedy]: day every day maintaining it it's not
595
00:26:03,554 --> 00:26:03,574
[sharon_collon]: a
596
00:26:03,836 --> 00:26:09,395
[amy_kennedy]: realistic um m expectation or objective for
many
597
00:26:09,416 --> 00:26:09,642
[sharon_collon]: maybe
598
00:26:09,495 --> 00:26:15,705
[amy_kennedy]: people at least people with with families
anyway as soon as any child whether there
599
00:26:16,747 --> 00:26:18,329
[amy_kennedy]: our divergent or not
600
00:26:18,379 --> 00:26:18,481
[sharon_collon]: no
601
00:26:18,793 --> 00:26:19,277
[amy_kennedy]: they're going
602
00:26:19,223 --> 00:26:19,465
[sharon_collon]: going
603
00:26:19,418 --> 00:26:21,781
[amy_kennedy]: to touch things
604
00:26:22,283 --> 00:26:25,053
[sharon_collon]: yes
605
00:26:23,423 --> 00:26:28,552
[amy_kennedy]: you know anyway you know as soon
as you have a cup of coffee you've
606
00:26:28,592 --> 00:26:35,243
[amy_kennedy]: got a mug so unless you wash
it and put it away immediately there is
607
00:26:35,323 --> 00:26:38,468
[amy_kennedy]: going to be a mug left somewhere
608
00:26:39,064 --> 00:26:39,124
[sharon_collon]: m
609
00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:43,056
[amy_kennedy]: as long as you're building your process
about after i have my cup of coffee
610
00:26:43,296 --> 00:26:47,896
[amy_kennedy]: what do i do with my mug
then yeah makes a
611
00:26:49,023 --> 00:26:53,210
[sharon_collon]: wonderful so i want to say thank
you so much and there was some really
612
00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:57,577
[sharon_collon]: good take aways in there number one
that your service like yours exists so if
613
00:26:57,638 --> 00:27:04,729
[sharon_collon]: you're in camera or surrounds please do
check out any and also that you can
614
00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:09,617
[sharon_collon]: you can do things like you look
at your system simplify those system and look
615
00:27:09,658 --> 00:27:13,544
[sharon_collon]: at those trouble spots and see if
you can review it you know maybe they
616
00:27:13,584 --> 00:27:20,375
[sharon_collon]: can get in contact with a professional
organizer like you amy because it would be
617
00:27:21,197 --> 00:27:27,267
[sharon_collon]: great asset for beautiful families to have
it have that advice in home support like
618
00:27:27,327 --> 00:27:32,616
[sharon_collon]: you offer your beautiful clients because sometimes
it's just having that person there that could
619
00:27:32,676 --> 00:27:36,422
[sharon_collon]: make all the difference for them so
thank you so much for coming on the
620
00:27:36,462 --> 00:27:37,292
[sharon_collon]: pot how's today
621
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,967
[amy_kennedy]: thank you sharing it's been a real
absolute pleasure lovely to talk to you and
622
00:27:42,147 --> 00:27:45,533
[amy_kennedy]: i just wanted to say to your
listeners if they're not in
623
00:27:45,515 --> 00:27:45,577
[sharon_collon]: no
624
00:27:45,593 --> 00:27:54,504
[amy_kennedy]: camera there are professional organizers like me
nationally so just google in your area and
625
00:27:55,866 --> 00:27:58,929
[amy_kennedy]: i'm sure you'll be able to find
one that can help you
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00:27:59,783 --> 00:28:00,413
[sharon_collon]: yeah
627
00:28:00,442 --> 00:28:01,967
[amy_kennedy]: thank you again been
628
00:28:01,963 --> 00:28:02,625
[sharon_collon]: amazing
629
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[amy_kennedy]: play
630
00:28:03,006 --> 00:28:05,275
[sharon_collon]: thank you very much yeah
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[amy_kennedy]: yeah
